Bots, forceteam

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Bots, forceteam

Postby nightwatch on Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:16 am

Hi,
The bots are really screwing up even teams. I've gotten moved to the other team before to make it unbalanced, and I've played 1v5, then 0v5 because of the team imbalances. Plus it's kind of cheap to make it look like people are in your server when they aren't.

Pretty much, ja+ blows.
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Re: Bots, forceteam

Postby Turky on Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:32 am

Not only that, but when people ragequit, these "ghost bots" join where the scoreboard will say 2v3, but the join screen will say 4v3 and that's what the server thinks it is. So sometimes, a player is auto'd to the bigger team.

Shame that you don't want to put keramod on there yet... and I do think we should try a week or so with no bots and see if it affects the server's population.
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Re: Bots, forceteam

Postby Kerafym on Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:37 am

if you're going to have bot minplayers on, you shouldn't have on autobalance. the two are incompatible.
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Re: Bots, forceteam

Postby j3rk on Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:42 am

Turky wrote:So sometimes, a player is auto'd to the bigger team.


More often than not, I'd say. I don't think 0 bots is necessary (or a good idea) but dropping it to 2 or 3 would help a lot as requested here: viewtopic.php?f=14&t=893
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Re: Bots, forceteam

Postby Turky on Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:07 pm

What's annoying is having to constantly forcespec the ghost (and real) bots.
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Re: Bots, forceteam

Postby tens0r on Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:58 pm

Lol pubs
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Re: Bots, forceteam

Postby nightwatch on Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:42 pm

tens0r wrote:Lol pubs


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Re: Bots, forceteam

Postby Laser on Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:14 am

i think we should turn autoswitch off
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Re: Bots, forceteam

Postby GUARD!AN on Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:02 pm

I want data before making a decision on this. I know J3rk brought it up a long time ago, it just keeps slipping my mind.

All stakeholders, give me statistics.

1. How many games on average per day do YOU see ruined because of too many bots + autobalance
2. Would you prefer lowering the bots and keeping autobalance, or just turning off autobalance?
3. What if I uploaded an admin vstr that automatically shuffled the teams? An admin with vstr permissions would be able to execute this script and even if there are a ton of bots, and autobalance is on, it would even it out at the very least.
4. Do normal pub players even notice it? Or is it just seasoned players like you guys?
5. Anything else you feel I should know.

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Re: Bots, forceteam

Postby tens0r on Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:59 pm

Lol guard you act like this is some drastic change. Just do it.
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